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The Two Faces of John Huntsman


ARE EXTREMIST CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS THE ENEMY AND TRAITORS TO AMERICA? by R. Blackbird

Extremist Conservative Republicans are selfish, power hungry, hateful of the poor, disloyal to the nation and its people, dishonest, avaricious, scornful of the nation's history, the dignity of its institutions, its standards of political morality, and its vision of advancement for all the people. The Republicans love war as long as they and theirs do not have to put on helmets and carry guns into the fighting. They use lies to start wars that kill hundreds of thousands of innocents and thousands of our own military service people. They love massive war-time profits, unavailable to their rich masters if war is absent.

Those Extremist Conservative Republicans hate the rest of us, which they must, in order to pass away from themselves and onto us, the financial burdens and losses their crimes, schemes and thefts cause. They are prolific, incessant, and destructive liars. They are blasphemers for they insist that their hateful and destructive deeds are the work of God. They are apostates for they gleefully attack the poor, the immigrants, the old and the sick, of whom God has commanded all of us to be mindful.

There is no reasoning with them, for all their logic is built on false premises. There is no appealing to them for honor's sake for they have lost all sense of shame and have no honor, there is no appealing to them for the nation's sake for that it what they hate the most.

Extremist Conservative Republicans are the enemy.


We will leave it up to the reader to determine whether Jon Huntsman has made serious errors in in judgment.  Although Jon has supported a Conservative Mormon position especially when it comes to Church and State issues, it is apparent from the data collected, that his ethics are not of the best kind, and the first amendment may be in danger from his past and future actions.

We called Jon Huntsman's office.  A representative of his office when asked about Mr. Huntsman's position on other religions beside Christianity, stated, "Those religions aren't real."  What is a real religion, Mr. Huntsman?  What you have been practicing?  Read the following and remember: "By their Works may they be known."  This is a summary of information collected from several sources about Jon Huntsman.

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CONTENTS
 

The Weird, Weird Jon Huntsman Campaign

Huntsman tries to carve out role as GOP’s centrist ‘truth-teller

Huntsman's Big Daddy

Huntsman Running for President

2012 Announcement Kicks Off Campaign (VIDEO)

Jon Huntsman Flirted With 'Death Panels' As Governor


Right Wing Extremism Part II          Introduction to the Right Wing Conspiracy

Right Wing Extremism Part III        The Religious Right and the Christian Reconstructionists

Right Wing Extremism Part IV        Christian Reconstructionism, Christian Ayatollahs, and Racism

Right Wing Extremism Part V          Republican Gomorrah

Right Wing Extremism Part VI        Ayn Rand - The Republican Mascot

Right Wing Extremism Part VII       Republican Bigotry and Media Stupidity

Right Wing Extremism Part VIII     Republican Scandals and Culture of Corruption

Right Wing Extremism Part IX        Republican Criminals

Right Wing Extremism Part X          Day in the Life of Joe Middleclass Republican

Right Wing Extremism Part XI        The 12 Worst (and most powerful) Christian Right Groups

Right Wing Extremism Part XII       The Anatomy of the Religious Right

Right Wing Extremism Part XIII     The Family

Right Wing Extremism Part XIV     The Tea Party

Right Wing Extremism Part XV       The Koch Brothers and KochAmerica

Right Wing Extremism Part XVII     Does Rupert Murdoch Own Too Many Sources of Information

Right Wing Extremism Part XVIII   Fox News and the Dumbing Down of America

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The Weird, Weird Jon Huntsman Campaign

His Campaign keeps weirding its way around America, and this week's prize is a lengthy profile in ... well, uhm, Vogue. Yes. Vogue, for some reason. Conde Nast's massively influential political magazine.

With his tanned face and salt-and-pepper hair, he looks so good in checked shirts and denim jackets that The Wall Street Journal recently compared the launch of his campaign to a Ralph Lauren product rollout.
I mean, that checked-shirt wearing skill could be really important, for some reason! Or, as National Review's Mark Krikorian suggests, this is Huntsman's "political obituary."

What else of note did Huntsman do this week? Well
he professed his admiration for Captain Beefheart on Twitter. Look for Huntsman's ballot in the 2011 Pazz and Jop Poll, for sure! He also used Twitter to take a shot at Texas Governor Rick Perry, after Perry said that evolution was a theory that was "out there." Said Huntsman: "To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy."

Hey, you know how we've been doing this thing where we find one thing Huntsman says or does that will ensure that the GOP base will never vote for him? Well this week, he tweeted: "To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy."

It's no wonder that pollster Frank Newport and Politico are calling Huntsman "
the next Pawlenty." Helping to confirm that, it was reported this week that Pawlenty's former New Hampshire Campaign Director Sarah Crawford Stewart will be serving as Huntsman's senior adviser in that state.

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By Michael O’Brien - 08/20/11 12:00 PM ET
Former Utah. Gov. Jon Huntsman (R) believes he has an opportunity to carve out his position within the GOP primary field as the “truth-teller.”

The former ambassador to China repeatedly has sought to distinguish himself as the relative centrist in the GOP race; he backed the debt-ceiling compromise in Congress when no other candidate did so, and he's been unapologetic about his support for civil-unions for same-sex couples.

Huntsman took it to another level Thursday on Twitter, when, in an implicit jab at Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), Huntsman ribbed skeptics of climate change and evolution within his own party.

“To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy,” he wrote after Perry, campaigning in New Hampshire, had expressed his doubts about both.

Huntsman will have a chance to broaden that message with a national media tour that starts Sunday with an appearance on ABC's “This Week.” On Monday, he sits down with CNN's Piers Morgan.

“He saw an opportunity given some of the things Gov. Perry was saying up in New Hampshire to distinguish himself from Gov. Perry as well as Gov. Romney,” campaign spokesman Tim Miller said of Thursday's tweet.

The question for Huntsman has always been whether he would be able to mobilize voters in a primary cycle in which conservative fervor runs deep. As the field's relative centrist — Huntsman still considers himself a dyed-in-the-wool conservative — President Obama’s former appointee as the top diplomat in China has sometimes struggled to gain traction with the primary electorate that fears he lacks conservative credentials.

Huntsman will no doubt have another opportunity to court the GOP's non-Tea Party wing in his Sunday interview; he'll almost certainly face a question about the tweet, and have another opportunity to zing competitors, including former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R), with whom Huntsman has fought for position in the key primary state of New Hampshire.

Huntsman has also made a play in the South Carolina primary (He's skipping Iowa), having built an organization there and by recently participating in Rep. Tim Scott's (R-S.C.) first presidential town hall. That appearance drew headlines for Huntsman’s duet with Scott of “Hit the Road, Jack,” which was dedicated to Obama.

“The good news is that the candidates are coming to us,” said Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), who had supported former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty's (R) presidential bid before Pawlenty withdrew last Sunday.

Huntsman, Wilson said, has “really made significant inroads in the state” and boasts “a great ground team” in South Carolina.

Miller said the campaign also received positive feedback from donors for Huntsman's stances on the debt ceiling and civil unions, a sign his supporters are embracing his relative centrism and don’t see it as a detriment.

“Part of being authentic is telling the truth on issues that aren't to your electoral advantage,” Miller said. “When the opportunities arise to demonstrate he's authentic, he's told the truth.”

Former Utah. Gov. Jon Huntsman (R) believes he has an opportunity to carve out his position within the GOP primary field as the “truth-teller.”

The former ambassador to China repeatedly has sought to distinguish himself as the relative centrist in the GOP race; he backed the debt-ceiling compromise in Congress when no other candidate did so, and he's been unapologetic about his support for civil-unions for same-sex couples.

Huntsman took it to another level Thursday on Twitter, when, in an implicit jab at Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), Huntsman ribbed skeptics of climate change and evolution within his own party.

“To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy,” he wrote after Perry, campaigning in New Hampshire, had expressed his doubts about both.

Huntsman will have a chance to broaden that message with a national media tour that starts Sunday with an appearance on ABC's “This Week.” On Monday, he sits down with CNN's Piers Morgan.

“He saw an opportunity given some of the things Gov. Perry was saying up in New Hampshire to distinguish himself from Gov. Perry as well as Gov. Romney,” campaign spokesman Tim Miller said of Thursday's tweet.

 


Huntsman's Big Daddy

Jon Huntsman Sr. is one of the richest men in the world. He’s also been his son’s best ally.

Excerpts from an article on June 28, 2011 at the thedailybeast.com posted by McKay Coppins and David Graham.  For inquiries, please contact The Daily Beast at editorial@thedailybeast.com.

Jon Huntsman Jr. stood proudly in the national spotlight last week when he officially declared his presidential candidacy at a park in New Jersey, strategically positioning his podium to include the Statue of Liberty as the camera-ready backdrop. But while broadcasters happily captured the choreographed scenery, there was a far more influential figure than Lady Liberty looming in the candidate’s background: his father.

Jon Huntsman Sr. is relatively unknown nationally. But he is as close to royalty as one can get in Utah. A self-made billionaire who struck it rich when his company invented the clamshell containers used for McDonald’s Big Macs, he is one of the richest people in the world today, and has joined Bill Gates and Warren Buffett in pledging to donate the majority of his fortune to charity. Having given more than $1 billion to various causes, his name is now plastered across tall buildings and prominent institutions throughout the Beehive State—from the high-tech Huntsman Cancer Institute to Utah State University’s Jon M. Huntsman School of Business. He holds a prominent ecclesiastical position in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and was known in the 1990s to regularly loan his private jet to the church’s then-president, Gordon B. Hinckley, for his world travels. Mention Huntsman Sr.’s name in Utah, and the first reaction is practically unanimous praise.

The second reaction: how Huntsman Sr. has been a driving force behind his son’s political career, to an extent not evident in his campaign biography or the accounts of his nascent presidential bid thus far. Interviews with a number of sources close to the Huntsmans reveal a powerful, ambitious father who has played a significant role in his son’s political rise at every turn—leaning on contacts, calling in favors, and, in several cases, lashing out at those he feels have slighted Jon Jr.

It is a sign of Huntsman Sr.’s clout that Utah’s politicos are wary of talking about his role in his son’s career. “He’s got a footprint that’s bigger than probably anybody’s in this community,” says a Utah political veteran who didn’t want his name associated with a story that might upset the elder Huntsman. “His name is solid gold.”

The source, who has worked closely with the family, added: “When you get a call from Huntsman Sr., not much has to be said on the phone. It’s just the fact that he’s calling and reminding you of where your loyalties should be.”

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Influential fathers are hardly a new phenomenon in the annals of presidential politics. From the Adamses to the Roosevelts, the Tafts to the Kennedys, the Gores to the Bushes, candidates have long used valuable family ties to get ahead. Nor is Huntsman alone in the 2012 field in having a helping hand up. Mitt Romney’s father, former Michigan Gov. (and 1968 presidential candidate) George Romney, urged his son to challenge Sen. Ted Kennedy for re-election in 1994, standing in as a surrogate speaker for Mitt, even interrupting a press conference of the candidate’s to protest what he saw as unfair Kennedy attacks on the Romneys’ religion.
When you get a call from Huntsman Sr., not much has to be said on the phone,” says a source. “It’s just the fact that he’s calling and reminding you of where your loyalties should be.
As the latest in that long line, the Huntsmans make a compelling case study. “From a very early age, I think together they charted out that Jon Jr. was going to have the political career,” says a source that worked with the Huntsmans for years and has first-hand knowledge of the family dynamics.

Other veteran Utah political operatives insist any impression that Huntsman Sr. has been pivotal in his son’s career is overblown. His involvement is no more than one would expect from a supportive father, says Dave Hansen, campaign manager for Sen. Orrin Hatch. “You never had the feeling that this is one where the father’s pulling the strings behind the son.” Supporters also point out that the two men have their ideological differences. While Jon Jr. is considered a moderate for his stances on immigration and gay rights, the elder Huntsman is more traditionally conservative, and has a close friendship with hard-right icon Glenn Beck.

Contacted last Thursday, the Huntsman campaign declined to comment. Five days later, Tim Miller, a spokesman for Huntsman Jr.’s campaign, said: “We will not participate in a story where all conclusions were reached before the campaign was even contacted.” Huntsman Sr. did not respond to requests for comment.

Consider Huntsman Jr.’s trajectory. He got his diploma from the University of Pennsylvania—the Ivy League school where his father, a wealthy alumnus at the time Jon Jr. was accepted, would go on to serve on Penn’s Board of Trustees and have a building on campus named after him.

When Jon Jr. graduated with a degree in international politics, he took a job as a White House staff assistant under President Reagan, for whom his father had been a major fundraiser. When Jon Jr. became the youngest U.S. ambassador in a century at age 29, it was under President George H.W. Bush—for whom Huntsman Sr. served as the Utah campaign chairman in 1988 and 1992. Jon Jr.’s private sector experience, which he regularly touts on the campaign trail, comes from working for his father’s company—first as vice chairman of the board for Huntsman Corporation, and then later as chairman and CEO of Huntsman Family Holdings.

No one suggests that Huntsman was some legacy hard case who succeeded solely because of Dad’s money and muscle. On the contrary, he wins wide acclaim for his smarts and political skills. “To Jon Jr.’s credit, he is a substantial guy, and as time went on he built his own credentials,” says the source who has worked closely with the family. “He was very effective in those positions. But there’s no question he got a head start.”

When Jon Jr. sought the Utah governorship in 2004, the elder Huntsman was notably absent from the campaign. But the candidate’s father was watching closely—and fiercely protecting his own.

For example, early in the 2004 gubernatorial primary, Jon Jr. found himself on the receiving end of a fairly benign jab during a debate at Dixie State College. Local businessman and gubernatorial candidate Fred Lampropoulos had accused the younger Huntsman of taking credit for creating jobs that were really the result of his father’s work. Jon Jr. effectively deflected the accusation, recalls one Lampropoulos campaign staffer who was present, but Huntsman Sr. was enraged. According to the staffer, the red-faced father approached Lampropoulos after the debate and “barked” at him: “That was a low blow, Fred! You’re playing dirty!”

“It was just way out of proportion for what had happened,” the staffer says, adding that subsequent experiences with Huntsman Sr. taught him that the outburst wasn’t an isolated incident. “He has a notoriously thin skin, and in political situations [he] really responds emotionally and viscerally to criticism.” (Lampropoulos did not respond to The Daily Beast’s request for a comment.)

Huntsman Jr. eventually won the election and went on to become the most popular governor in state history. His father continued to help him plot his next move. Before the 2008 presidential primaries, for example, according to a source close to the family, father and son got together and discussed endorsement strategies. They determined that Huntsman Jr. would support John McCain—who was more likely to give him a prominent cabinet post if he won—while Huntsman Sr. would endorse Utah favorite Mitt Romney so as to maintain good relations with the state’s numerous Romney-ites. The apparent disagreement made headlines at the time but, the source says, “It was all calculated.”

As his son prepared to launch a presidential bid earlier this year, sources say Huntsman Sr. is as vigilant as ever. One Utah politico tells The Daily Beast that he’s been told through a family intermediary that Huntsman Sr. is carefully monitoring everything he says to the press about Jon Jr.

“It’s very hard to tell one of the Huntsmans ‘no,’” says Doug Foxley, a lobbyist and attorney who was a senior adviser to Jon Huntsman Jr. during his 2004 campaign and remains close to him. “Let me just put it this way: I think that Jon Sr. will be watching very closely those who do and don’t give to his son.”

Huntsman Sr. apparently took offense recently when Kirk Jowers, director of the University of Utah’s Hinckley Institute of Politics, chose to support Mitt Romney’s campaign instead of lining up with Huntsman. According to two sources with knowledge of the incident, Huntsman Sr.—who has donated $15,000 to the institute every year for a decade and a half—had a supporter deliver the message that he was seriously reconsidering future donations.

Asked for comment, Jowers told The Daily Beast that the account was not true “as far as I know” and touted Huntsman Sr.’s “generous” history of donations, but declines to discuss the matter further. But Jowers was also quick to forward the email from The Daily Beast to John Weaver, Huntsman Jr.’s chief campaign strategist—an interesting step for a Romney adviser (Jowers worked for Romney in 2008, and considered running for governor with Romney’s son as his ticket mate in 2010). Huntsman Sr. did extend the donation for the current year. Weaver declined to comment.

Says one longtime Utah Republican operative and family friend of the Huntsmans: “Jon Sr. will brook no unkind word or deed toward his son or his family, and everyone here is well aware of that.”

Huntsman Sr. did briefly flirt with a career of his own in public office. Displeased with the performance of Utah Gov. Norm Bangerter, a fellow Republican, the father announced in 1988 that he would challenge the incumbent on a pro-economic development platform. “It was a surprise to Gov. Bangerter,” says Reed Searle, who was managing the governor’s struggling campaign and served as his chief of staff after Bangerter was re-elected. “We had no notice of his political interest in doing something like that, so it was a grand surprise.”
 

But Huntsman Sr. announced he was dropping out just a month into his bid, citing a desire to avoid dividing the party and to return to his company. His exit was brokered during a clandestine nighttime meeting that Salt Lake’s Deseret News described as having a “007 script.” Meeting in an abandoned parking lot, Huntsman told the governor – who had shaken free from his state trooper escort at Huntsman’s request – that he was dropping out unconditionally, requesting only amnesty for his allies and the privilege of offering economic advice. Bangerter agreed to both.
 
Why the quick exit? Huntsman Sr. simply wasn’t prepared for the rough-and-tumble world of electoral politics, says Nolan Karras, a former member of the Utah state house who later lost a gubernatorial primary to Huntsman Jr. “There were some pretty outlandish and difficult allegations against him,” says Karras, referring to stories about his role in the Nixon administration and complaints about his business practices in the Utah press. “And I think he just thought, ‘My Lord, I’m mega-wealthy, why would I put up with this?’ and bailed out.”
 
Some think Huntsman Sr.’s abortive political bid is what has driven his involvement in his son’s career. As one Utah Republican insider puts it, “There are many who believe that Jon Sr. is living vicariously through his son because he didn’t have the opportunity to serve in public office.”
 
Once in the governor’s mansion, Jon Jr. was hardly a rubber stamp for his father’s pet causes. Lobbyists who hoped to use Jon Sr. as a path to the executive mansion were disappointed. “I happen to know personally that on a couple of occasions, folks went to Jon Huntsman Sr. to get his son to accomplish things and he [Jon Sr.] was not successful at getting him [Jon Jr.] to change his mind,” says Karras. “They were two separate individuals.”
 
Another potential point of friction: the way Jon Jr. handles campaign queries about his faith. In interviews with both Time and Newsweek, the younger Huntsman has attempted to dodge questions about his Mormonism, saying it is “tough to define,” that religious issues “don’t matter,” and that the LDS church does not have a monopoly on his spiritual life. “For a church leader like Huntsman Sr.,” says one source who knows the family, “that answer has gotta be tough to swallow.”
 
In any case, a little distance between the two might be a good thing for the newly minted presidential candidate. According to one Utah politico familiar with Huntsman Jr.’s personal branding strategy, he has always been sensitive to the way his upbringing could be perceived.
 
“He’s tried very, very hard to get away from this image of having this silver spoon all his life,” the politico says. “Eating at taco stands on street corners, avoiding plush stuff – all of that stuff’s calculated.
 
“Look, he understands international relations very well, and he’s a smart guy. But he would not be in this position without the political influence of his father.”

McKay Coppins is a reporter for Newsweek and The Daily Beast covering politics and national affairs. His writing has also appeared in The Daily Caller and Salt Lake City's Deseret News.

David Graham is a reporter for Newsweek covering politics, national affairs, and business. His writing has also appeared in The Wall Street Journal and The National in Abu Dhabi.

 


Huntsman Running for President

Excerpt from huffingtonpost.com Speculatron June 24, 2011

Huntsman's candidacy -- confusing though it may be to people like us who still think the general tenor of the GOP base makes it hard to conceive of a conciliatory, moderate, Boy Scout-type ascending in the primary process -- continues to shape up with competent staff and a clear strategy in mind.

Huntsman landed the support of Bushland veteran
C. Boyden Gray to lead his policy team, a move that lends his candidacy a healthy dose of old-school GOP-establishment cred.

He's also not entirely giving up on Iowa. While Huntsman will skip the caucus, he'll nevertheless travel to the state
to appear in an upcoming debate.

And he finished
second in the Republican Leadership Conference's straw poll -- though it needs to be noted that he got a little bit of tricksy help to pull off that particular feat. Still, better to be the guy who can marshal forces than the guy who can't.

Huntsman staked out the sort of position on Afghanistan that squares nicely with the mood of actual Americans but will surely bring the new cadre of "OMG OMG ISOLATIONISM" fearmongers to spit criticism in his direction. After President Barack Obama's speech on the Afghanistan drawdown, Huntsman was pretty much calling it not good enough, instead coming out in favor of a
"safe but rapid withdrawal," and a "focused counter-terror effort," to replace the boots-heavy counterinsurgency strategy underway. (Joe Biden could maybe be his vice-president!)

Huntsman also came out
in favor of a balanced budget amendment, which sensible people see as something that needlessly cripples the government's ability to function. But this is the primary season, and it's typically safe to voice support for such things in order to signal "deficit seriousness" to people who don't know any better, safe in the knowledge that Congress will never be able to pass such a measure anyway. (Support for the amendment is also one of Sen. Jim DeMint's litmus tests.)

Well known for his support for civil unions, Huntsman sent the best of mixed messages that he could, saying that as president,
he would "respect" New York's decision -- should it come to pass -- to allow for marriage equality. That separates him from most of the GOP field, who said they wouldn't.

At the same time, he snuggled up with the rest of the field as well as he could
by saying that "redefining marriage is something that would be impossible and it's something I would not be in favor of." (I'm pretty sure that history demonstrates that a redefinition of marriage is eminently possible, but whatever.)

Huntsman still has to cope with a number of factors that imperil his nomination prospects. The fact that
one-in-five Americans would not vote for a Mormon remains one key vulnerability, though -- let's face it -- it hasn't really been put to the test yet.

The more troublesome shots Huntsman is taking are coming from within the GOP tent. For example, I doubt many in the Republican Party will take kindly to the news that
the Huntsman family have been big supporters of Harry Reid. And, as Benjy Sarlin reports, the Club For Growth isn't too terribly impressed:

The conservative anti-tax outfit dubbed Huntsman a "frustrating figure," whom they nevertheless credited with pursuing "pro-growth" policies in Utah. On the negative side, they took off major points for increasing state spending ("inexcusable"), backing TARP, and once supporting cap-and-trade legislation to combat climate change. They were especially concerned with the governor's belief that Americans deserve proper health care.

"We find Governor Huntsman's statement that 'health care is a right' to be simply flabbergasting," they wrote. "We're not sure what part of the United States Constitution Governor Huntsman was referring to when he made that statement, but he certainly needs to explain what he was thinking."

And neo-con anger-walrus John Bolton is straight up indignant at Huntsman for daring to serve his country under the Obama administration:

"There is no patriotic obligation to help advance the career of a politician who is otherwise pursuing interests that are fundamentally antithetical to your values. That's not the call of patriotism," said Bolton. "I don't understand it. This is not like World War II, when we are facing an existential threat to the country as a whole, and you do put partisanship aside."

David Axelrod counters by saying that Huntsman was a big help to and "effusive" supporter of the Obama administration -- oh, wait -- that's not going to help, either.

 


Jon Huntsman For President: 2012 Announcement Kicks Off Campaign (VIDEO)

Excerpts from an article posted on huffingtonpost.com  06/21/11
Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman declared his candidacy for president of the United States on Tuesday in Liberty State Park, New Jersey. 

"For the first time in our history, we are passing down to the next generation a country that is less powerful, less compassionate, less competitive and less confident than the one we got," the Republican hopeful said. "This, ladies and gentlemen, is totally unacceptable and totally un-American."

Huntsman launched his campaign in the same location that Ronald Reagan announced his candidacy for president in 1980.

ABC News reports on one glitch in the campaign kick-off:

Members of the media were handed a press pass that read “John Huntsman for President”. -- adding an unnecessary H in the candidate's first name.
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Earlier this year, Huntsman resigned as President Barack Obama's U.S. ambassador to China.

Despite working in the Obama administration, Huntsman says he and the president have "a difference of opinion on how to help the country [they] both love."

The AP recently reported:

Huntsman's moderate stances on some issues and his service in the Obama administration could hurt him with the Republican Party's right-leaning base.

[President Barack Obama's chief campaign strategist David] Axelrod said that when he was in China in the fall of 2009, he had a chance to talk with Huntsman. "He was very effusive about what the president was doing. He was encouraging on health care. He was encouraging on the whole range of issues. He was a little quizzical about what was going on in his own party. And you got the strong sense that he was going to wait until 2016 for the storm to blow over."

Over the weekend, Axelroad said that he was "surprised" to learn about Huntsman's intention to run for president in 2012, but added that he certainly takes the Republican hopeful's candidacy seriously.

A spokesman for Huntsman responded to the remarks from Axelrod by saying, "Axelrod's comments are absurd. Gov. Huntsman's record on health care and the economy (was) the opposite of President Obama's top-heavy, government-centric, failed approach. That is the record he will run on."

However, HuffPost's Jason Cherkis reported earlier this month: (see article after this one)

In 2004, during his successful campaign for governor, Huntsman promised to reform Utah's health care system. He vowed to fix a system that had left hundreds of thousands of Utah residents without health insurance, even telling the incoming executive director of Utah's Department of Health that his goal was to insure everyone. During his first term, Huntsman became smitten with Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's Health Connector plan, which included a mandate.

Huntsman and his administration went on to support a 2007 United Way of Salt Lake City plan which called for a mandate. That same year, his cabinet and others pushed draft legislation that mirrored the Massachusetts model and the United Way plan and included a mandate. When the Utah legislature balked at such a mandate, it was taken off the table. Instead, in 2008, Huntsman passed a reform bill that established a health care exchange for small businesses known as the Utah Health Exchange that left uninsured individuals unaddressed.

Throughout our reporting, Huntsman and his campaign have denied that the then-Governor ever supported a mandate.

In large part, Huntsman has attempted to distance himself from the president amid recent speculation about his plans for 2012. Obama, however, has made light of the prospect that his former ambassador could run against him in the next election cycle.

"I'm sure the fact that him having worked so well with me will be a great asset in any Republican primary," the president joked earlier this year.

Huntsman addressed his presidential ambitions in an email to supporters ahead of his announcement on Tuesday morning.

"I've recently had the honor of serving as U.S. Ambassador to China. That view of America from 10,000 miles away is a picture of liberty, opportunity and justice; people secure in their rights and in love with their freedom, who've done more good for more people than any other nation in history," he said. "Perhaps our strength at home has waned, but that perspective from afar has helped me see a path back to greatness."

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Jon Huntsman Flirted With 'Death Panels' As Governor

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Excerpts from a story written by Jason Cherkis which appeared in huffingtonpost.com 05/27/11

 

Two years before Sarah Palin conjured “death panels" from her active imagination, Utah’s business elite devised its own far less infamous version. And depending on who you ask in Utah, then-Governor -- and current GOP presidential hopeful -- Jon Huntsman Jr. was all for it.

In 2007, the United Way of Salt Lake City, in an effort to come up with its own solution on health care reform, assembled a gold-plated committee of civic poo-bahs: white-collar elites from the city’s Chamber of Commerce and banking industries, a conservative bunch in an ultra-conservative state. The committee met regularly in an effort to craft a reform plan that they could support.

The committee took advantage of a time when everyone in Utah seemed interested in addressing this problem. “I loved the consensus that was formed there,” recalled Judi Hilman, executive director of the non-partisan Utah Health Policy Project. “I’ve never been more hopeful for Utah health reform than at that time. All the levers that you need to pull were pulled in that proposal.”

So what did the bigwigs come up with? Along with a mandate, they produced a progressive cost control measure that would have actually addressed one of the biggest issues facing reform: the sky-rocketing expenses associated with health care. The plan called for the adoption of an independent commission, or “Health Benefits Commission,” which would essentially rule on which procedures were clinically appropriate and which were just fattening the wallets of surgeons, drug makers, and medical device manufacturers.

In the pre-Palin era, advocates and insurance heavies agreed on the commission idea for Utah. This was not seen as something that would pull the plug on Salt Lake grandmothers -- rather, it would allow courses of treatment to be determined using medical knowledge. Dr. Joseph Jarvis, who served on the committee, says he was “encouraged” by the proposal. “It would be a huge change in the way health insurance is done,” he explained. “Right now, if there is a death panel, it’s behind corporate doors. They creatively deny benefits all the time. They don’t use clinical science to do that. They might claim that but they don’t.”

In Jarvis’ telling, the commission would formulate a basic benefit package that would be based on medically appropriate and clinical evidence. Useless surgeries for back pain? They wouldn’t be in the benefits package. Invasive procedures that show no better results than over-the-counter meds for acid reflux? Also not in the package. Under the United Way plan, Utah residents could still opt for that risky surgery for that ailing back, but they would have to pay for most if not all of it themselves. The more unnecessary the procedure, the less it would be covered by insurance.

According to a confidential draft of the United Way plan obtained by The Huffington Post, the authors wrote [PDF]:

We propose that an independent commission make coverage decisions based on these essential characteristics:
 

a) Treatments will be based on the lowest cost, generally-accepted alternative that meets the medical need.
b) Benefits will include financial incentives for healthy lifestyles (non-smoking, weight, others).
c) No deductibles are necessary because the co-payments/co-insurance structure provides appropriate incentives.
d) No out-of-pocket maximum is necessary because medically essential services are capped episodically and non-essential services are paid for out-of-pocket.
e) A combination of co-payments (defined amount) and co-insurance (defined percentage) that are tiered based on income (% of the federal poverty level) should be applied.

The independent commission should be appointed by the Governor, confirmed by the Senate, include 3-5 people, and include six-year terms. Members of the commission should include individuals with a mix of clinical knowledge and fiscal accountability. The commission will define the essential benefit package, provide coverage determination on an ongoing basis, and have rulemaking authority.

The commission will establish an appeals board to mediate disputes. This function will be structured like an administrative law judge. By law, there will be no additional recourse: neither providers nor insurers can be sued for denial of care outside of this venue.

Jarvis, an advocate for a single-payer style health insurance, considered the commission to be the United Way plan's most significant feature. Utah’s health care industry vets did as well.

Greg Poulsen, a senior vice president and chief strategy officer with Intermountain Healthcare, the largest insurer in the state, served on the United Way committee. In an interview with The Huffington Post last week, he too played up the cost-saving measures of the plan. He explained that the committee saw that any attempt at reform needed to try to reign in health care spending. “The rate of cost increase has been significant,” he said. “Like everywhere else, people worried about the rate of growth on health care costs and we were looking for ways to try and change that trend.”

Huntsman didn't just anxiously wait for this plan to be implemented from the sidelines. He lent staff support to the committee, recalled Bill Crim, senior vice president of community impact and public policy with the United Way of Salt Lake City. Crim was the lead staffer on the committee.

Norm Thurston, the governor’s health reform implementation coordinator, recalled attending some of the United Way meetings as well.

“Governor Huntsman’s staff was very much involved,” confirmed Bruce Reese, the committee’s co-chair. “We had really good involvement and monitoring from the governor’s office.”

These aren't just the recollections of a few. Newspaper accounts from the time repeatedly link the United Way committee with Huntsman. In an op-ed from Sept. 22, 2007 Reese writes in the Salt Lake Tribune: “The good news is that a new commitment and concensus are emerging to truly solve this problem. Through the United Way Financial Stability Council, the Salt Lake Chamber and the business community have teamed up with Gov. Jon Huntsman, legislative leaders...to develop a common sense, business-minded framework for addressing our health care challenges.”

To hear the Salt Lake Tribune describe it, the United Way plan had Huntsman’s support. The day the plan was set to be publicly released, the paper tied the plan -- including the commission -- to Huntsman, writing:

Coverage would be purchased from the private market, but at affordable prices. Benefits would encourage consumers to adopt healthier lifestyles without skimping on medical care. No one, not even the poorest families, would be denied basic care.

Such are the promises delivered in a blueprint for health care reform quietly authored by a think tank of 130 Utah business leaders and backed by economic and health advisors to Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr.

Jarvis, for one, believed the plan had Huntsman’s support. “I know that the governor’s office was very excited about this concept, the whole package,” he said. “Because of the commission -- I endorsed it. So did the governor. He was so enthused because he thought he had so many community leaders behind it. He had his staff immediately try to find sponsors in the legislature.”

John T. Nielsen, the governor’s adviser on health care reform whom one legislator dubbed Huntsman’s “voice and face,” attended the United Way’s planning sessions and liked the commission. “It struck me as not a bad idea,” he said. “I would not have personally rejected the idea ... I think it ran into legislative angst.” Nielsen, who said he did not recall the governor's opinion, would not confirm that he endorsed the entire plan.

The then-House Speaker David Clark argued that the plan couldn’t just be turned into concrete legislation. “It was concept -- 30,000 feet,” he said. The United Way eventually morphed into a new legislative task force that went on to develop the Utah Health Exchange. Clark doesn’t recall the governor or anyone in the governor’s office taking much of a position on the United Way’s proposals.

Over time, Huntsman’s support, by some accounts, decreased as well.“My sense was he was enthusiastic about it,” recalled Hilman. “He did kind of fade into the background sooner than many of us would have liked. He pulled back way too early.”

To Palin, the United Way commission would have screamed Death Panel, even if policy wonks aren’t saying it. The experts HuffPost contacted from the feds, a D.C. think tank and a state university in the upper Midwest refused to engage in a discussion about whether Palin would have labeled Utah’s effort a death panel.

But Huntsman’s camp’s reaction to this story is telling. In response to queries about the United Way’s plan, the campaign forwarded HuffPost a statement from the governor’s former chief of staff Neil Ashdown, who adamantly denied that his former boss endorsed anything death panel-related. “The governor was encouraged that the United Way brought a lot of parties to the table to begin the process of identifying and proposing health care reform solutions. He certainly didn’t endorse all of the policy prescriptions including the mandate and the benefits commission laid out by their final plan, as it was only one part of a large review process," the statement read.

Campaign spokesperson Tim Miller sent along a statement of his own on Huntsman’s health care reform record: “He should be judged based on the plan he supported, endorsed, and signed which has become the model for a comprehensive free-market, consumer driven reform that was not government-centric and did not include a mandate.”




 


 


 

 

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