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PAGAN SLANDER AND HOW TO STOP IT
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The following statement is being published to identify the Religious Freedom Coalition of the Southeast and the tradition of Dynion Mwyn's positions as they pertain to alleged Terroristic Threats, Theft, Hacking, Plagerization, Slander, Forgery, Criminal Defamation, and other alleged offenses that have been committed by Betsy Ashby and others against pagan churches in general and the Church of Dynion Mwyn specifically. We are also giving you information that you can use to discover if you are hearing factual information or untrue rumor. If you discover slanderous charges against any pagan church or organization, please report them ASAP to firstname.lastname@example.org The staff has collected a large amount of evidence pertaining to lies, slander and terrorist threats that have been made against us. Real Pagans don't attempt to coerce threaten or defame other Pagans.
Lady Gwen Boudicca, Cardiff, Wales and Columbus, GA, Celtic Church of Dynion Mwyn
Some facts: Lord Rhuddlwm Gawr was initiated in Wales in 1966. See: (http://www.dynionmwyn.net/Origin/Origin.html and http://www.dynionmwyn.net/Origin/Origin2.html and http://www.dynionmwyn.net/Origin/Origin3.html Also see http://www.dynionmwyn.net/history.html ) Lord Rhuddlwm Gawr retired from the Church of Y Tylwyth Teg, Inc. in Feb 2, 2003, and officially handed over the reigns of leadership to Lady Cerridwen, his wife. His purpose in retiring was to continue writing, speaking and doing research on Dynion Mwyn, the original source of Y Tylwyth Teg beliefs and initiation. The Church of Y Tylwyth Teg, Inc. is a part of the Tradition of Dynion Mwyn.
Later Rhuddlwm Gawr temporarily came out of retirement to lead the Celtic Church of Dynion Mwyn, Inc. in the U.S. He was also the founder of the Association of Cymry Wiccae, Inc.
As of 9/1/2007, Lord Rhuddlwm Gawr has again retired and is revising "The Pentacle and the Sword". The Celtic Church of Dynion Mwyn, Inc. is now lead by a board of directors composed of ethical and qualified elders.
Lady Cerridwen stood by Lord Rhuddlwm and supported Dynion Mwyn beliefs through the Church of Y Tylwyth Teg, for 18 years. She helped shape policy. She is a good leader of Y Tylwyth Teg.
Certain individuals have made it a policy to slander and defame Dynion Mwyn, and/or Y Tylwyth Teg. As an elder of Dynion Mwyn, I feel it is my duty to post my response to any slander or any questions that may arise from this split. Rhuddlwm Gawr will be purportedly mentioning some of these same individuals in the "WitchWars chapter. I can't wait to see the fur fly! I speak for all loyal Dynion Mwyn members when I say that Lord Rhuddlwm Gawr is a most honorable person and holds the tenets of honor, loyalty, and trust as the most important part of his teachings. Judge for yourself. Make your own decisions.
In conclusion, Lord Rhuddlwm Gawr is the original founder of both Y Tylwyth Teg and Dynion Mwyn, in the U.S. He and Dynion Mwyn are the victim of slander by those who could not meet the requirements of becoming an ethical Witch, so they attack their teachers or those who were more knowlegeable. SHAME ON THEM...They have violated every ethical tenet of Welsh Witchcraft and of the traditions they claim "to be a part of". They have also violated every Pagan tenet that has ever been put forth. May the gods treat them as they are treating others.
Lady Gwen Boudicca, Cardiff, Wales and Columbus, GA, Celtic Church of Dynion Mwyn
See Below for:
The Dynion Mwyn Welsh Witchcraft web page has been hacked or invaded by unauthorized persons no less than nine times in the last five years. After DM traced and identified one hacker, the proper authorities were notified and the hacker was dealt with. But Dynion Mwyn expects more attempts of trying to bring down their site, by the Religious Right, and unethical pagans which seem to be visible everywhere.
The former Dynion Mwyn representative in North Wales reported that her Computer was hacked by persons unknown, but was tracked to a router in France. It is known that Guto Rhys (see below) uses a similar IP address.
Sarah Lewis, Cardiff, Wales, Celtic Church of Dynion Mwyn
No leader, staff member or teacher in the history of the existence of Dynion Mwyn has ever been legally accused or charged with a crime. We have investigated several untrue charges, but when the perpetrators are confronted, no one will admit to spreading the malicious rumors and slander. Or when asked to tell their story to authorities, they suddenly do not wish to be involved. Read the below to see where these stories come from:
ROBIN ARTISSON AKA ANTHONY PALAZZO
Y Tylwyth Teg and Rhuddlwm Gawr sponsored the Original Pagan Gathering of the Tribes in 1967. Click Here to See History. Some groups are using the text from the Original Gathering of the Tribes Web Site and Y Tylwyth Teg Gathering Brochures. Who cares?! In 1971, the Church of Y Tylwyth Teg relocates to Georgia and organizes the 5th annual Gathering of the Tribes in Kennesaw GA. On pages 384 and 385 of the first printing (published in 1979, and on page 432 in the newest printing, (published in 2006) of Drawing Down the Moon by Margot Adler, she mentions the 12th annual Gathering of the Tribes she attended at Unicoi State Park, Georgia, in 1978 organized by the Church of Y Tylwyth Teg and the Association of Cymry Wicca.
In 1991, Betsy Ashby, attended the 25th annual Gathering of the Tribes. She plagiarized The Name, Wording and Text from the printed Gathering of the Tribes material and returned to Virginia to form her own Gathering of the Tribes. The Y Tylwyth Teg/Dynion Mwyn Gathering Web pages and brochures have remained substantially the same since 1977. We still have Betsy Ashby's festival application. In it she states that she owned a occult shop, Out Of The Dark. But she claims to have the Original Gathering of the Tribes. I don't know how old Betsy Ashby is, but she was probably a teenager getting in trouble in 1978, and from speaking to her acquaintances, she wasn't interested in Paganism until she owned a Occult Shop in the 1990s.
There are stories that Betsy Ashby has allegedly been involved with sexual abuse of young girls in Virginia, sexual harassment, Plagerization, criminal coercion, theft of intellectual property, slander, defamation, and other accusations which the Church could not verify. Betsy Ashby has allegedly been accused by Native American Cherokee sources of Fraud. This is a terrible accusation, since these people had no idea of her past history and have allegedly given her thousands of dollars under false pretenses.
We have e-mail allegations that Betsy Ashby coerced and mentally abused a young girl in Georgia. Although we have copies of the horrible e-mails, we feel we need incontrovertible proof. In the meantime these stories should be considered damning but only interesting, . When confronted by questions about Betsy Ashby's Plagerization, and her claims that she was holding the only Gathering of the Tribes, she just laughed and said everything is fair in business advertising and since she was not a Pagan, Karma didn't apply to her.
Betsy Ashby placed a page on her web site claiming that we had plagiarized her page. LOL LOL Go to the DM Page at http://www.dynionmwyn.com/gathering.html and look for any evidence of Plagerization. Of course, you won't find any. According to Lady Cerridwen of Y Tylwyth Teg, Betsy Ashby's position in the Pagan community is irrelevant and unimportant since she has violated too many trusts.
In our opinion, Betsy Ashby is without honor. We have linked to several e-mails she has sent to individuals that will demonstrate her true nature.
Betsy Ashby claims that Y Tylwyth Teg, Rhuddlwm Gawr and Lady Cerridwen Gawr sponsored some kind of sex trips to Thailand. LOL LOL LOL
Rhuddlwm Gawr, Cerridwen Gawr, Y Tylwyth Teg, or Dynion Mwyn have never been to Thailand, never sponsored sex trips to Thailand, or been involved in such.
At one time at the request by one of our members, a link was placed in our travel section to a vacation site purporting to sponsor Gay and Lesbian, etc. vacations to Asia. When we found there was questions about the travel companies ethical purposes, we of course took down the offending link. Upon further investigation, we found that the accusations against the company were false, but we felt that since we are a family site, we just didn't want that sort of connection. Betsy Ashby of course then had a chance to lie and say they "sponsored" the trips. You'd make George Bush Proud, Betsy!
She has so many outrageous and untrue slander on her site, we go there from time to time to get a good laugh. Thailand. Uh Huh. I have known Rhuddlwm for several years. I asked around. All I heard was "How come I never heard about sex trips to Thailand? He never had any trips mentioned on his Vacation Page that I could see. Belize - Yes. I even went to Belize using one of his linked travel agencies. Great Time."
The Gathering of the Tribes has received e-mail's from participants of DM festivals comparing other Festivals. See http://www.dynionmwyn.com/GATH2001/gathdes.html
You will find a sample of letters received recently. REMEMBER, always investigate for yourself, do NOT take the word of anyone. Use your common sense. Call or e-mail any groups mentioned and ask them to verify claims with names, dates , locations, etc. to verify the claims. Don't let people lie to you just because it sounds plausible. Click HERE to avoid Charlatans.
Lord Taliesin, Atlanta, GA, Celtic Church of Dynion Mwyn
SEE REWARD AND FORGERY BELOW
Alright, you see that some people can be a danger to the Pagan community. WHAT CAN YOU DO? These people are mentally ill and extremely dangerous! The following precautions will help to protect you from the destructive acts of which they are capable. First, to recognize them, keep the following guidelines in mind:
In our dealings with Malignant Personalities over the years we have done all the above.
Lady Gwen Boudicca, Cardiff, Wales and
Columbus, GA, Celtic Church of Dynion Mwyn
INVESTIGATING RUMORS AND GOSSIP
Always check your sources when investigating rumors and gossip. Ask for evidence which is usually a signed statement by a real person and not just a copy of a copy. By putting a signature to a claim, the person is giving their word that the information is correct. If you lie or give false evidence, even if it is by good intentions, you can find yourself charged with Criminal Defamation in Georgia, which is punishable by 1 to 5 years in prison, beside civil penalties. This especially applies to web pages and e-mails since they also fall under national criminal statutes of conspiracy and fraud, and involve the FBI.
Since Georgia has a long arm statute, these criminals can be charged in their home state and extradited to Georgia. You usually find that such information is being spread just to hurt another party and there is little or no truth to it.
Be careful what you send by e-mail. All e-mail can be traced, according to the FBI agent who we talked to. He stated that all ISP and e-mail providers are required to keep a record of all e-mail transactions for three years. This includes originating node (PC number , telephone number, Cable node number, Router number, or other id) It is impossible to send an e-mail anymore without being identified, even if you use a so called safe program that is supposed to hide your e-mail address. That worked for almost a year. Now the FBI has required all ISP's and e-mail providers to allow the FBI to access ALL traffic from whatever source.
Warning, because of the recent problems with terrorist threats involving the World Trade Center attack, defamation, slander, attempts to hack this site, and other illegal activities perpetrated by persons unknown, all traffic to and from various sites are being monitored from time to time, by State and federal authorities. Is this fair? Is this just? Is this freedom? Of Course Not. But big brother is here to stay as long as we are in a "State of War". Just a word of warning: If you get your kicks by sending threatening e-mail, slander and defamation, you might wish to reconsider.
Always be careful that what you are talking about, is verifiable. Always ask for evidence and record any comments made by the person as to their content and date. Then check the person. It doesn't make any difference how well you know the person, they are usually spreading unverifiable gossip that they had heard from someone else who heard it from a disgruntled pagan who wants to "get back" at someone.
Also beware of someone who claims to have mountains of evidence of a criminal activity. If they did, they would be violating the law by NOT turning it over to the police or federal authorities. Obviously, they don't have such evidence or someone would be prosecuted. Also beware of anyone who will not give you the evidence of such criminal wrongdoing. Ask for copies of anything you see or hear about. Ask them to SIGN a statement that they are sending you the information.All Dynion Mwyn teachers record all phone calls made to them. In Georgia we don't have to let the other party know. Lady Gwen Boudicca, Cardiff, Wales and Columbus, GA, Celtic Church of Dynion Mwyn
WHAT IS EVIDENCE? Evidence in the case of slander and defamation charges, is original sworn testimony, in a court of law, or a deposition, signed and dated by witnesses and/or the alleged wronged party; it is e-mail sent by the terrorist; it is comments made to a third party slandering another. It is also sworn testimony in written documents prepared by the perpetrator. Copies of "transcripts" can be altered and forged. It is also against the law to use fraudulent documents for purposes of slander and defamation even if you did not know the documents were fraudulent. Many copies of documents accusing individuals of this crime or that unethical practice, are circulating around the pagan community that are forged. Each person who reads and passes on slander from these documents is committing state and federal crimes. Forged documents are usually not signed, and if signed, they will not usually have a date and a notary stamp. It is a federal crime to forge such documents and circulate them by mail, e-mail or even showing them to a person from a different state. The key here is verifiable evidence.
Lord Taliesin, Columbus GA and San Francisco, CA
PLAGIARISM Betsy Ashby, who attended the Gathering of the Tribes in 1991 near Atlanta Georgia (her registration form is on file), returned to Virginia and allegedly copied not only the idea and the name, but also material out of the gathering brochures and gathering material. Betsy Ashby is also alleged to have copied the Church's 1992 Gathering Web Page which is alleged to be the basis for her Gathering Page today. Shame on you Betsy. You should have used your intelligence to help the Pagan community and not yourself!! Click Here to Avoid Charlatans.
It is a fact and documented that The Church together with others in Maryland and D.C. sponsored the first national Pagan Gathering of the Tribes. Anyone who states differently is mistaken or just blatantly lying.
You may have noticed that several Pagan Web Sites are using The Church's material without citing the correct author. Especially those dealing with a Gathering of the Tribes. The Church has used the term Gathering of the Tribes in a Pagan Festival Context for over thirty years; (See History) first in Washington DC and Maryland in 1967 through 1970 and then in Georgia and the Southeast from 1971 through today. There is a copyright associated with the name Gathering of the Tribes, but it has nothing to do with a festival and is a magazine in New York. There is a claim of a Gathering of the Tribes held in California during the late 70's but it was not pagan, it was held by Timothy Leary and his LSD group. So there is an ethical consideration involved in trying to claim the Virginia gathering is the original Pagan Gathering of the Tribes (since they are not Pagan) and their use of The Church's material.
Lady Dana and Lord Rhuddlwm held the first Pagan Gathering of the Tribes in the Western Maryland forests in March 1967. In all research through Pagan Archives, the Church's staff believes this is the first Pagan Gathering of the Tribes mentioned. But hey, so what. There are now forty seven (47) Gathering of the Tribes throughout the United States and two (2) in Great Britain.
Lord Taliesin, Columbus GA and San Francisco, CA
FORGERY (From Blacks Law Dictionary) A person who is connected to Guto Rhys (see above) has committed a fraud through forgery of a document purportedly written by a elder in Y Tylwyth Teg. Let's determine if this is a serious matter. The following is from Blacks Law Dictionary and has been cross checked with International Law and Georgia State law which both apply:
Crime is committed when one makes or passes a false instrument with intent to defraud, and the element loss or detriment is immaterial. People Vs McAffery, 182 Cal.App.2d 486, 6 Cal.Rptr. 333, 337. The false making of an instrument, which purports on face of it to be good and valid for purposes which it was created, with a design to defraud any person or persons. State v Goranson, 67 Wash.2d. 456, 408 P.2d 7, 9. Lord Taliesin, Columbus GA and San Francisco, CA
FAIRI GOLD & CLAIMS OF PRIOR USE As with most pagan organizations, Dynion Mwyn accepts articles and information in good faith. A certain amount of material was donated to the Welsh Witchcraft Page by Taliesin Wynne, and Robert Martin, teachers of Dynion Mwyn, a Welsh tradition, between 1979 and 1998. Other information was donated by various students and interested parties over the last thirty years.
A group called Fairy Gold claims that certain material on our web site is copyrighted by various pagan authors in the 90s. The Church has published several books containing the text in question, which are listed in BOWKER'S Books-in-Print. CLICK HERE TO SEE Y TYLWYTH TEG BOOKS! These books have been in publication, from the 70s and contain copyrights that are from the late 70s and early 80s. Hmmm, these Faerie's must be able to time travel!!! At the same time the Church states they do not have much respect for groups that claim a history from authentic traditions, but in fact are plagiarized from books by Max Freedom Long and other sources. Shame. Why don't you really tell where the Fari tradition comes from?!!
From time to time The Church receives e-mails from unknown parties who claim to have written articles which have been posted to the Church's web page, but never offer proof. In fact they never give their legal name or address.
THE UNIDENTIFIED PERSONS, WHO HAVE SENT E-MAILS COMPLAINING ABOUT TEXT WHICH THEY ALLEGE IS THEIRS, WILL NOT SEND EVIDENCE OR ANY PROOF IT IS THEIRS. JUST SAYING SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE IT SO.
The Church has a hard time dealing with people who hide behind the internet, make claims, and think they are safe from prosecution or legal action.
THE CHURCH HAS NO PROBLEM GIVING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. THERE ARE A FEW CASES WHERE PERSONS HAVE SENT EVIDENCE, AND THE CHURCH HAS SEEN A RESEMBLANCE TO PRIOR PRINTED MATTER SUBMITTED BY MEMBERS OR STUDENTS, AND HAVE EITHER OBTAINED PERMISSION, OR REMOVED THE OFFENDING TEXT.
THE QUESTIONABLE PAGANS WHO WOULD RATHER SLANDER THE CHURCH'S NAME THAN CONDUCT THEMSELVES LIKE CIVILIZED INDIVIDUALS, ARE TO BE SHUNNED!!
The Church is therefore asking the Pagan community at large to please send The Church information regarding copyrighted material claimed by the Church and on other web sites or pages. Also send the Church information about anyone claiming authorship of any of the material on the Church's website.
Finally, if you have verifiable evidence that anyone associated with the Fari Gold group or the Betsy Ashby group or Michael Marra, or a Robin Artisson has been involved in sexual perversions, child sexual abuse, spousal abuse, rape, murder, conspiracy to intimidate and coerce, theft of intellectual property, please contact your local law enforcement agency and please copy us in a note. We need to put these terrible rumors about these people to rest.
The Church believes in "The Balance", which states: "For every good thing The Church tries to do, there are evil people trying to harm the work of The Church." These people may be the fanatical religious right, misguided and power hungry pagan leaders, disgruntled students who want to get back at someone for an imagined wrong, and of course the ever popular ego tripping boaster who wants to make points with what he or she perceives as the Pagan Power Structure.
So have a nice peaceful visit. There are over 2,000 pages on our site now, most are information pages, and if you can access it in your browser, most of it is available to download. Blessed be and may the gods protect you from the ignorance and hatred of others. Go in Love.
Lady Boudicca, Columbus GA and San Francisco, CA and RFCSE Staff
JURY AWARDS 11.3 MILLION DOLLARS OVER DEFAMATORY POST
Our attorney sent us the following article from USA Today. It is an article about a Florida Jury which awarded a woman $11.3 million dollars over defamatory internet posts. Our attorney has been involved in preparing a case for us against several individuals within the US and in the UK who should be found guilty of the same sort of behavior.
Excerpts From USA Today:
A Florida woman has been awarded $11.3 million in a defamation lawsuit against a Louisiana woman who posted messages on the internet accusing her of being a "crook" a "con artist" and a "fraud."
Legal analysts say the Sept. 19 award by a jury in Broward County, Fla - first reported Friday by the Daily Business Review - represents the largest such judgement over postings on an internet blog or message board. Lyrissa Lidsky, a University of Florida law professor who specializes in free-speech issues, calls the award "astonishing."
Lidsky says the case could represent a coming trend in court fights over online messages because the woman who won the damage award......pursued the case even though she knew the defendant.....has no hope of paying such an award.
The plaintiff said she wanted to make a point to those who unfairly criticize others on the internet. She stated that the message is strong and clear: "people are using the internet to destroy people they don't like, and you can't do that."
"The jury determined this was a significant enough issue. Its not just somebody's feelings are hurt; its somebody's reputation is ruined."
We at Dynion Mwyn also feel that certain individuals have been guilty of the same sort of behavior in regards to various Pagan group's reputation. So we retained an attorney and have even posted a reward for information leading to the arrest and/or conviction and/or judgement against those certain individuals. So far we have received a great deal of information.
The moral of the story is The Internet is Becoming a Place Where the First Amendment may no longer be cited when a character assassination is involved.
So be careful what you post on your message boards or Blogs or web pages. It will come back to haunt you. Big Brother is watching over your shoulder as you read this and type an answer. Every keystroke you type on your computer is being recorded somewhere.
Even though this judgement helps our case, it takes away a little more of our freedom.
Lord Taliesin, Columbus GA and San Francisco, CA
To Whom It May Concern:
Students of Dynion Mwyn, after beginning their studies and
joining the DM General Study Group, were subject to threats attempting to intimidate them
into leaving the study group, by people using what we would describe as terrorist methods.
These people refused to disclose their true identities, and under this cloak of deceit;
became bold enough to break the law on several occasions. Their status as a 'hidden
identity' also gave them a confrontational and aggressive false bravado, as they believed
that even if they did commit illegal acts, no one will be able to find them to prosecute
them. These people joined the DM General Group using aliases, harvested e-mail
addresses and then unsubscribed.
and anyone else who originated or passes on the
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The letters and articles quoted above were received from people, representing third parties, and we have no way of proving or disproving what they say. The owners and service providers of this website or domain are not the author of these letters or articles. The individuals being exposed have trolled under many names, and of the ones that there is any uncertainty of, the authors are still willing to believe these slanderers wrote them.
Anything you see revealed here at this site should be taken as information from a third party, hearsay, unproveable, possible rumor - this information is provided pursuant to the right to make public letters in possession - and to make opinions clear about what is felt about these sad, pathetic people. This is an exercise in free speech, opinion, and even a touch of satire in the commentary. Nothing on this page is to be taken as anything other than opinion, based on things heard and seen.
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Even though we have been attacked by Right Wing extremists, pseudo-Christian apologists, and other fringe elements of the Christian Right and Left, we still exist because of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. We have been threatened by some, that we will be sued for exposing religious bigotry and hate. Since we have no assets, but a great deal of voluntary legal support, we will welcome each attempt to silence us, as an opportunity to expose, in open court, the characteristics and lies of these so called "religious leaders. We will feel free to request an extensive production of documents.
Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, who were deists (not Christians), helped frame the Constitution of The United States of American and placed language in the First Amendment to guarantee Religious Rights for all Americans. We will uphold that tradition.
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