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Question: "Separation
between Church and State." Who coined the Phrase? Give up? Answer:
Thomas Jefferson - one of the founding fathers of this great Nation and a creator of
the U.S. Constitution and the First Amendment to that same Constitution. Thomas Jefferson, in 1802, wrote a Letter to the Dansbury Baptist
Convention, referring to the First Amendment to the US Constitution. In it he said:
"Believing that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his
God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative
powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign
reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature
should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State."
We will leave it up to the reader to determine whether
Senator Thune has made serious errors in in judgment.
John has supported a Conservative
Far Right Christian position especially when it comes to Church and State issues
but he supports Rape! It
is apparent from the data collected, that the first amendment may be in danger from his
past and future actions as well as other constitutional sections. He has supported
deregulation of banks and the SEC causing the current economic Depression.
Senator Thune's office stated that his position is that Certain Religions
aren't "Real" religions. What is a real religion, Mr.
Thune?
What you have been practicing? He says on the one hand that only certain Christian
denominations are valid. Read the following and remember: "By their Works may
they be known." This is a summary of information collected from several sources
about Senator Thune.
(Remember it is best to investigate on your own when
looking at allegations about anyone. Don't believe us, think for
yourself and investigate for yourself! And remember, the First Amendment Coalition
and Religious Freedom Coalition of the South East do not represent any political party nor
do we recommend any political candidate, nor are we involving ourselves in the political
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The Following
contains excerpts from huffingtonpost.com, NY Times, Wikipedia.org, and
other sources.
Born and raised in South Dakota,
Thune attended college at
Biola University in
California before returning to his home state to obtain a graduate degree at
the
University of South Dakota.
He worked as a legislative aide to U.S. Senator
James Abdnor and
served in the
Reagan Administration
in the
Small Business Administration,
before winning election to the
House of Representatives
in 1996. After three terms in the House, he unsuccessfully challenged
Democrat
Tim Johnson in the
U.S. Senate race in 2002, losing by a mere 524 votes (0.15%). Thune was
elected to the Senate two years later, defeating the incumbent Democrat,
Senate Minority Leader
Tom Daschle.
Early life and
Family
John Randolph Thune was born and raised
in the small town of
Murdo, South Dakota,
the son of Yvonne Patricia (n้e Bodine) and Harold Richard Thune. Thune's
paternal grandfather was an immigrant from Norway who partnered with his
brother to start Thune Hardware stores in Mitchell and Murdo, South Dakota.
An
evangelical Christian,
Thune graduated with a
B.A. degree in
Business from
Biola University, an
Evangelical Christian college near Los Angeles in 1983. Thune received an
MBA from the
University of South Dakota
in 1984. He married the former Kimberley Weems of Doland, South Dakota, in
1984; both are committed Evangelical Christians. They have two daughters,
Brittany and Larissa.
Thune was appointed Railroad
Director of South Dakota by
Governor
George S. Mickelson
and served from 19911993. Between 1993 and 1996, he worked as a member of
the South Dakota Municipal League.
House of
Representatives
In 1996, Thune was elected to
South Dakota's at-large seat in the
United States House of Representatives;
he won reelection in 1998 and in 2000 was reelected with over 70% of the
vote. Thune supported
term limits and
promised to serve no more than three terms in the House.
Keeping his pledge, Thune instead
ran for the
United States Senate,
challenging Senator
Tim Johnson in 2002,
and losing by 524 votes (0.15%).
Between 20022004 Thune worked as a
lobbyist for the Dakota, Minnesota & Eastern Railroad.
The race was the most expensive Senate
race in 2004, with $30 million spent, and the most expensive in South Dakota
history. It was widely followed in the national media. Thune along with
Senate Majority Leader
Bill Frist,
President of the United States
George W. Bush, and
Vice President
Dick Cheney
painted Daschle as the "chief obstructionist" of Bush's agenda: "Thune was
able to criticize Daschle for serving incompatible masters, and portray
him, as Frist did when he came to South Dakota to campaign for Thune, as a
partisan obstructionist and political heir to liberal icon and former Sen.
George McGovern of South Dakota.
Daschle's critics charged the Democrat
with using
filibusters to block
confirmation of several of Bush's nominees to the federal judiciary, and
being out of step with the views of South Dakota voters on other political
and social issues: "The GOP had targeted Daschle, the Senate minority
leader, claiming he had been the chief obstruction to President Bush on such
issues as tax cuts, judicial nominees and the war in Iraq."[6]
Thune emphasized social issues such as
abortion and
same sex marriage,
and
flag burning
to highlight the differences between his views and Daschle's, stating,
"Two-thirds of the people in South Dakota are in favor of protecting
marriage through a Federal Marriage Amendment. You know, two-thirds of the
people in South Dakota, probably higher than that, are in favor of an
amendment to protect the American flag. You know, the Second Amendment, gun
owners' rights, abortion those are not wedge issues in South Dakota."
In addition, Thune drove home his
strong support for the war: in a nationally televised debate on
NBC's
Meet the Press,
Thune accused Daschle of "emboldening the enemy" by stating President Bush
had "failed miserably" to avoid the
Iraq war.
When the race began in early 2004,
Daschle led by 7 points in January and February. By May, his lead fell to
just 2 points and into the summer polls showed an effective tie. Throughout
September, Daschle led Thune by margins of 25%; from October until the
November 2 election, most polls showed Thune and Daschle tied 4949 among
likely voters.
On November 2, 2004, Thune defeated
Daschle by 4,508 votes, winning 51% of the vote and became a well-known
Republican figure in the U.S. Senate. Daschle's loss was the first ousting
of a serving Senate Majority or Minority Leader since 1952, when Arizona
Senator Ernest McFarland lost his seat
to Barry Goldwater.
Senate Career
Thune was chosen to be the GOP's Chief
Deputy Whip.
Soon after arriving in the Senate,
Thune wrote language into a transportation bill expanding the pot of federal
loan money for small railroads, enabling his former client to apply for $2.5
billion in government financing for its project.
As a U.S. Senator, Thune also took a
leading role in formulating energy policy. He pushed for the final passage
of a comprehensive energy bill, which finally overcame a series of
Democratic filibusters and passed the Senate in 2005. Thune helped pass
another energy bill in late 2007. Thune is a particular advocate of
ethanol and
wind energy, which
are linked to South Dakota's high levels of
corn
production and its windy prairies. Thune's hometown of Murdo is considered
one of the windiest towns in the nation.
Thune, along with South Dakota's senior
Senator Tim Johnson, was also faced with the challenge of keeping
Ellsworth Air Force Base
in
Box Elder, South Dakota
(near
Rapid City) open
after the Department of Defense announced plans to close the base as part of
its 2005 round of base closures. The Pentagon announced that it planned to
move all of Ellsworth's B-1 bombers to Dyess
Air Force Base in Texas. Ellsworth Air Force Base is one of South Dakota's
largest employers, and a critical component of the state's economic
well-being, making it necessary for the state's political leaders to fight
for its continued existence. Senator Thune, along with Senator Tim Johnson
(D), lobbied Washington, specifically the Defense Base Realignment and
Closure (BRAC) Commission, to keep Ellsworth open. In their lobbying
efforts, they argued that it made little sense to consolidate all of the
nation's B-1s in a single location due to the risk of a single attack or
tornado taking out the fleet. Also, it was discovered that the Pentagon may
have overlooked a lawsuit that possibly prevented B-1 pilots at Dyess from
engaging in adequate training. While the fate of Dyess was still in the air,
Thune declared that he had strong doubts about issues such as John Bolton's
nomination as United Nations ambassador, "I've said all along that I'm going
to play whatever cards I have to get the best possible outcome I can for my
base," he is reported as saying. Ultimately, the BRAC Commission voted 81
to reverse the Pentagon's recommendation to close Ellsworth.
Thune also sponsored an amendment (No.
1618) to a troop support bill (S. 1390) in the Senate in July, 2009 that
would have created a federal law allowing concealed carry weapons owners to
enjoy interstate reciprocity of this right. Despite the support of prominent
blue dog
Democrats in the senate, the bill was defeated narrowly (58-39; 60 votes are
needed to pass an amendment).
Thune has described his religious faith
as the most important aspect of his political career: "Having a Christian
worldview shapes my decision-making with respect to all aspects of my life.
I always respect people in public life who are principled, and those
principles have to be connected to something. And my faith is what serves as
the anchor and directs my actions." In June 2006, Thune reaffirmed his
strong support to amend the
United States Constitution
to ban
same-sex marriage:
"The
Federal Marriage Amendment
debate simply is an opportunity for us to affirm our support for
marriage...It is an important debate to have in this country."
In a 2005 interview with
Christianity Today,
Thune supported invading Iraq, expressing a hope that this would result in
greater religious freedom: "Liberating
Iraq
from decades of tyranny and dictatorship, bringing about political freedom,
will create an atmosphere of where religious freedom will come to Iraq. And
that opens the door, obviously, for the Christian faith there as well."
Before the selection of
Sarah Palin, Thune was mentioned as a
possible Vice Presidential pick for Republican Presumptive Nominee
John McCain
in some circles due to his strong Conservative policies. Thune publicly
played down the speculation.
Scandal
brewing around Jeff Gannon's favorite Senator, John Thune
Senator John Thune, who was
elected last year with great help from
GOP male hooker Jeff Gannon,
is in the center of a growing scandal back home. I read about it on
Capitol Buzz
which is, btw, one of my new favorite blogs. The Buzz links to a couple
of blogs,
Clean Cut Kid and
ThuneWatch.com,
who go into great detail, and who in turn, provide some other links.
It's financial and it doesn't look good -- this one has legs, I think.
Senator John
Thune and the ''Used Car Mafia''
by "Erin"July 3, 2005
I am surprised the
rest of the country can't hear the "buzz" coming from South Dakota. Have
you heard about this used car dealer who declared bankruptcy and has
been sued by the Iowa Attorney General on behalf of 400 consumers due to
the alleged Consumer Fraud and Violations of the Consumer Credit Code
with Ongoing Criminal Conduct? The U.S. Postal Inspector is conducting
his own investigation into alleged mail fraud related to alleged
fraudulent retail installment agreements. After the Iowa AG filed their
suit 13,000 more complaints/inquiries came into their offices in Des
Moines. What makes this interesting is that United States Senator John
Thune, the freshman senator from South Dakota is allegedly connected to
what is being characterized as a growing scandal.
This car dealer Dan
Nelson has had a personal relationship with John Thune for several years
and managed Senator Thune's congressional campaigns. Dan Nelson also
worked for Larry Pressler. Dan Nelson has had car dealerships in Iowa
and South Dakota where it is based in Sioux Falls. The Attorney
General's lawsuit lists an income of 100 million dollars by Dan Nelson
and Chris Tapken who owns 25% of the company. In this suit there are
some pretty serious allegations of fraud, deception, asking customers to
lie to lenders about the nature of their down payments etc.
The law in Iowa
does not allow private citizens to file a lawsuit if they have been
defrauded as defined by the Consumer Credit Code which is why the
Attorney General has filed. The laws being what they are in South
Dakota, Dan kept his operation there pretty clean and above board. There
have been less than 100 complaints made to the South Dakota AG as
opposed to the 13,000 made in Iowa with the 400 represented in the suit.
After John Thune
lost the 2002 election to Tim Johnson he was appointed to the board of
directors of Metabank which is a federally regulated savings and loan
chartered in Storm Lake Iowa with several locations in South Dakota and
Iowa. The Meta Financial Group Inc is the holding company based in
Delaware. Recently Dan Nelson filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy listing
outstanding debt of about 30 million dollars with 28 million owed to
Metabank...
Recent 8K filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission cite a
material change which they have to do by law if there is any significant
change or the assets of the company have been adversely affected. The
Metabank is a publicly traded company and uses the symbol cash. The
stock price at close on Friday July 1 was listed at $19 down $1 or 5%.
The assets of the company are somewhere between 750 and 800 million
dollars with a shareholder's equity of less than 50 million. This
particular savings and loan has allegedly made loans and or lines of
credit to Dan Nelson while John Thune was on the board and operating in
the auditing department. There have been some questions asked regarding
whether this car dealer had adequate collateral at the time the loans
were made and furthermore given the fact that the business was being
investigated for predatory and fraud were there any banking laws
violated?
The Des Moines
dealership location with a couple of lots and a building allegedly
mortaged 3 times for nearly 6 million dollars was closed last week along
with the other two Iowa locations, one of which had shut down earlier.
His South Dakota locations where mostly new cars are sold remain open
right now. He has publicly criticized the Iowa Attorney General for his
previously profitable car dealerships floundering after the lawsuit was
filed. There are indications that Metabank ok'd loans as late as October
of 2004 while Mr. Thune was still on the board and when all indications
were that the business was allegedly having some financial difficulties.
During Mr. Thune's run for the Senate, a building owned by Dan Nelson,
but also mortgaged through Metabank was used as a campaign headquarters
and there are documents showing that Dan Nelson was paid about 84,000.00
dollars for rental and such by John Thune.
John Thune resigned
from the bank board in November of 2004 after winning the election and
in January 2005 the Iowa AG filed their suit after exhaustive
investigation. Chris Tapken, age 34 owns 25% of Dan Nelson Automotive
Group and Dan Nelson owns the other 75%. Michelle Tapken, Chris' mother
was recently appointed U.S Attorney in South Dakota by John Thune
shortly after being elected. This group is known around Sioux Falls as
the "USED CAR MAFIA".
The
media coverage has been minimal in South Dakota. The weblogs are
absolutely compelling with new information being uncovered every day.
Dan Nelson has told the press that he will be vindicated when the case
comes to trial, but with the bankruptcy filing, there is a temporary
stay. The charges against the two individuals of Dan Nelson and Chris
Tapken are proceeding.
Thune is such a smug, sanctimonious prick. I hope this one sticks.
Political grandstanding is so fun that Republican Senators
tend not to realize what they are saying. South Dakota's
Republican Senator John Thune is
"blasting" and "slamming"
President Barack Obama for not doing more to cap BP's
Deepwater Horizon oil gusher in the Gulf of Mexico.
"The president
ought to be pulling together the very best minds out
there," the South Dakota Republican said. "He could be
bringing people together and figuring out which are the
best technologies, bringing in all the oil companies in
to discuss this, all the scientists, all the people who
have expertise in this area" [Ledyard King, "Thune
Blasts Obama Response to Gulf Oil Leak,"
that Sioux Falls paper,
2010.05.27].
Compare the above comments to the
pablum Senator Thune threw
to the National Rifle Association a fortnight ago:
Sen. John Thune,
R-South Dakota, told the crowd there are two competing
visions about the future of the country.
"One consists of more government and less freedom, and
one consists of less government and more freedom," he
said. "And right now, unfortunately, the prevailing
vision in Washington D.C. is that of government. More
and more government" ["Speakers
at NRA convention target Washington, midterms,"
CNN.com, 2010.05.14]
Does Senator Thune really want President Obama to
nationalize the BP cleanup effort?
Should Uncle Sam simply dissolve BP and take possession of
all of its equipment? We'd have to: we can't exactly load a
bunch of Army Corps of Engineers bulldozers and Madison's
211th National Guard company on a barge, ship them out of
New Orleans, and toss them in the ocean to fix the problem.
The President and his advisors have already assessed the
expertise and equipment needed to fix this problem... and
they've
recognized that BP has it.
Even if we took the Russians' advice and
nuked the broken wellhead,
we'd probably still have to use equipment from BP or other
industry players to drill into the sea floor and properly
place the warhead.
My conservative friends tend to criticize the Obama
Administration for Rahm Emanuel's oft-cited First Rule of
Politics, "Never
let a crisis go to waste."
Those critics forget to read the rest of the quote: "They
are opportunities to do big things."
Senator Thune is operating by the first half of Rahm's Rule,
but I don't think trying to use this crisis as an
opportunity to score political points against the man he
might try to beat in 2012 counts as a "big thing." President
Obama is willing to use this crisis as part of the argument
to make
big things like energy security
legislation happen. The
President is also moving ahead with preventive measures like
extending a moratorium on deepwater
exploration, a sensible,
cautious step Thune explicitly rejects in the King article.
Government has its proper roles. What I find amusing is that
Senator Thune is unwilling or unable to coherently explain
those roles. He can apparently only lurch from shouting
base-pleasing anti-government platitudes to crying for
government actions when it suits his political agenda. Ugh.
I think that all homo sapiens can understand how the mere
thought of an organization that receives government money
through contract mechanisms being tangentially involved in
setting up a fake tax shelter for a fake pimp and his fake
prostitution ring of fake prostitutes can justifiably lead to
lawmakers
going absolutely cross-eyed with white-hot, impotent rage.
But what happens when a similarly taxpayer-endowed contractor
attempts to
cover up employee-on-employee gang rape by locking up the
victim in a shipping container without food and water and
threatening her with reprisals if she report the incident?
Somehow, it doesn't engender the same level of anger!
30 misogynist Republicans
in the U.S. Senate are totally OK with rape,
at least where women are concerned. Predictably in yet another
routine attempt to serve their corporate masters, (this time the
GOP stood by Halliburton) Republicans voted against women and
for corporate contempt of rape victims.
Some Republican senators
are taking heat for voting against an amendment that would
allow employees of military contractors to sue their
employers if they are raped at work -- and they want the
Democratic senator who wrote the amendment to help them
fight off the bad publicity.
In October, 30
Republicans voted against Sen. Al Franken's amendment to a
defense appropriations bill that would de-fund contractors
who prevent their employees from suing if they are raped by
co-workers. Since then, those Republicans have faced outrage
for what critics say amounts to support for rape.
Instead of standing
up to take responsibility for or clarifying their disgraceful votes,
Republican cowards are instead attacking Al Franken, blaming him
for their votes.
Sen. John Cornyn
(R-TX) accused Franken exploiting the story of Jamie Leigh Jones
-- a former KBR employee who says she was locked in a
container in Iraq after alleging she was raped by co-workers
-- to further his political agenda.
"Trying to tap into the
natural sympathy that we have for this victim of this rape
--and use that as a justification to frankly misrepresent
and embarrass his colleagues, I don't think it's a very
constructive thing," Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said in an
interview.
I guess Franken held a
sledge hammer over Cornyn's head and said if he did not vote
against the anti-rape amendment Franken would crack it over his
head.
What shameless cowards.
To summarize the Republican
position: As women, we are not "average Americans," and gang
rape is not a "serious" issue. As women, no matter how powerful
we become on our own merits, the Republican establishment will
still be hoping for a man to come along and put us in our place.
Not every Republican signs
onto these views -- indeed, 10 Senate Republicans voted for the
Franken amendment, giving the lie to the NRSC's claim of
partisanship -- but this is the undercurrent of the party's
policies. This is what they're hoping to get voters to overlook
when they run a Sarah Palin or a Kelly Ayotte for office. This
is why Bob McDonnell's campaign for Virginia governor has been
such a popular campaign stop for 2012 prospects: because of, not
despite, his opposition to marital contraception and women in
the workplace. This is why David Vitter (who voted against the
Franken amendment) is still a senator in good standing with the
party of alleged sexual morality.
You don't have to go very
far beneath the Republican surface claims of
equality-but-not-really to get to the rock-bottom sense that
women just don't count, that our rights and our wellbeing are
always subordinate to whatever interest of men they might
conflict with. When it comes to it, even the (themselves sexist)
notions of chivalry and protecting women come behind protecting
the right of corporations to imprison their female employees to
shield their male employees from rape charges and still get
government contracts.
Credit
new Senator Al Franken however, for
introducing an amendment to the Defense Appropriations bill
that would punish contractors if they "restrict their employees
from taking workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination
cases to court." You'd think that this would be a no-brainer,
actually, but that didn't stop Jeff Sessions from labeling
Franken's effort a "political attack directed at Halliburton."
Franken, of course, pointed out that his amendment would apply
broadly, to all contractors, because otherwise,
'twould be a bill of attainder, right? Right?
Franken's amendment ended up
passing, 68-30. Here's a list of the Senators who showed broad
support for
Rapists and Pedophiles by
voting against it: (Click on their names to
find out more about them).
Republicans point out that the amendment was opposed by a
host of business interests, including the U.S. Chamber of
Commerce, and applies to a wide range of companies,
including IBM and Boeing.
I guess we must cover up crimes like rape in order to save
capitalism.
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